Richard, Ross, Simon, Stephen
These were accepted.
The following items have been added to the actions list:
Report from Computing Executive Group
Frontline Support Issues
Alison proposed, and it was agreed by the meeting, that it made little sense for Alison to give both this report and the User Support Unit report. It was agreed that this item would be combined with the US Unit report in future meetings.
Reports from units.
George will circulate details of the switch ports to which the machines we wish to move to wire S are connected.
Since wire C will be reused as the second Forum server wire, it was asked whether this wire could be made available downtown to simplify the moving of machines from KB to the Forum.George agreed that this could in principle be done if it should prove necessary.
Alastair invited other Units to start setting up virtual servers whilst pointing out that the technology is currently more suited to hosts requiring less in the way of performance.
Iain is going to create a virtual beowulf head node soon.
Chris pointed out that the demise of phoenix probably means that we cannot reinstall Solaris servers should that prove necessary. Craig will investigate.
The correct URI for accessing printers is
The question of whether we should carry out testing when we receive notification of a forthcoming MDP upgrade was discussed. It was agreed that ideally we should test those aspects of our MDP machines which differ from those in the rest of the University. The problem is that these aspects need to be identified first. We would also require a 'normal' MDP account for testing purposes.
It was pointed out that in view of the seemingly random nature of the printing issue, testing in advance might not necessarily highlighted the problem anyway
Topics for discussion
Alison highlighted an issue with the new inventory system which means there is no link between serial number and host name for some self managed machines with a fixed IP address in the inventory. This can make it very hard to locate these machines, In view of the current lack of available effort, Alistair suggested that issues with the new inventory system should simply be noted at the moment with a view to addressing these issues, if necessary, once effort becomes available. Alison has set up a wiki page at
for recording these issues.
It was pointed out that the minv command should still work but that there is an appreciable delay between data being entered in the inventory and becoming available via minv.
Several people observed that installs seemed to be taking longer these days. After some discussion, it was suggested that this may be due to the fact that since the install root moved to Linux, access to it has been restricted to machines in the HOST_MANAGED netgroup. Alistair will investigate why this was done and if necessary remove the restriction.
Neil raised the question of whether having ssh login machines on server wires was a security issue. George pointer out that since we currently have no internal firewalling, it probably made no difference though this may change in the future.
Several people expressed concern that a student had recently used ssh to probe most of the machines, including servers, in the School. Alison reported that she had investigated and that this had in fact been an ill-judged and badly written attempt by the student to insult his friends via wall. He had been informed of the errors of his ways in no uncertain terms. One issue which had emerged as a result of his inept coding was that beefy, the student compute server, was not living up to its name and should probably be upgraded.
Chris expressed some concern about when and how the move of kit from KB-1305 to the Forum server room would take place. Craig will make an announcement regarding this shortly.
The next meeting will be on Wednesday 25th February in IFG.03 and chaired by Craig Strachan.
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