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The Dice Project


Operational Meeting

Minutes of the meeting held on Wednesday 22nd November 2017 in IF-4.31

Present:
Ross Armstrong, Richard Bell, Toby Blake, Lindsey Brown, Neil Brown, Roger Burroughes, Tim Colles, Chris Cooke, Carol Dow, Alison Downie, Ian Durkacz, Graham Dutton, Adam Kirylczuk, Mohammed Javaid, Jennifer Oxley, Stephen Quinney, Iain Rae, Gordon Reid, George Ross (convener and minutes), Alastair Scobie
  1. Minutes of the last meeting

    These were approved.

  2. Actions and blog articles

    Actions discussed:

    Actions added or revived:

    Actions completed:

  3. Report from Computing Executive Group

    1. Compromised machines (reminder)

      Alastair and George will review the document. Note that the requirement to report things to irt@ed is now much stronger than when we originally wrote it.

  4. Reports from Units

  5. Topics for discussion

    1. Building mailing lists

      Tim brought this topic to the meeting for feedback, though the actual decision will be take elsewhere.

      • The suggestion was to merge the per-building lists into two more general ones, one of which could be opted-out of and the other not.
      • COs hadn't been on the if-people list after the move to AT,
      • People move between buildings, and just notifying those who happen to have an office in one or other can result in useful or important things being missed.
      • There are currently "too many" lists, and picking the right one can be confusing.
      • ATL8 occupants are probably not covered at all at the moment.
      • There was general support for the idea.
    2. How can we speed up our response to software install requests

      This topic had previously been discussed at CEG, and also prior to the meeting. There was considerable further discussion, the main points of which were:

      • If there are -devel versions of already-installed packages then they should be added too as a matter of course.
      • The "package search" interface should be revived. It broke with the move to SL7 and hasn't yet been fixed or rewritten.
      • There was some confusion as to the purpose of the "requested software" RT queue. Iain was adamant that it was intended as a place to park requests which weren't likely to be serviced any time soon. The Support team were equally adamant that that was news to them, and that they thought it was a place to put non-research non-teaching requests for someone to look at.
      • Moving tickets to the "requested software" queue results in this message being sent to the requestor.
      • Conclusion: use the "requested software" for non-research non-teaching requests. RAT and MPU will check it regularly and pick out anything which can be done reasonably easily.
      • It would be useful to have "live" package lists, as these might reduce the number of things which end up in individual machine profiles.
      • If things do end up in profiles they should be tagged clearly to make it easier to search for them at upgrade time.
  6. AOCB

  7. Next meeting

    The next meeting will be on Wednesday 13th December at 10:00 in IF-4.31.


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